The exchange was gonna take place, well, this is something that, of course, we knew was gonna happen. So we obediently packed again, from the room, and I remember we all got off and stayed on the dockside. They gave us a little time, maybe a couple hours on the, on land. They said, Don't go too far away, but they gave us that little freedom.

And then as we were removed, I guess the Gripsholm was getting ready to receive the Americans. And then, then we saw the Americans coming from the Teia maru and they were walking in a file. And the Americans were real happy and you know, waving. There was a weak moment that my hand went up and waving. And then I had to catch myself, thinking, my gosh. I mean, I did catch myself thinking that this is really happening; one-for-one so they're in single file. Then, when they all left the ship, Teiya maru, well, then almost immediately after, we got in line and marched onto Teiya maru. And then as soon as we entered, you sensed that this is no luxury liner. It was a freight or troop ship. And so it was a dingy, drab khaki color.